The goal of this observational study is to learn if saline results in improvement for patients with infection of their plerual space. The main question it aims to answer is: What is the time to chest tube removal? Do these patients after need to escalate to fibrinolytics? Do these patients after need to escalate to surgery? Participants will: * Receive receive saline into their pleural space through an existing chest tube * If they fail to improve, which will be determined by fluid size after treatment or signs of persistent infection, they will receive fibrynolytics through an existing chest tube * If they fail to improve, which will be determined by fluid size after treatment or signs of persistent infection, they will be referred to surgery.
Patients who require a chest tube for complicated parapneumonic effusion or empyema who meet inclusion criteria and consent, will be enrolled. An ultrasound measurement of the original effusions prior to chest tube placement will be obtained then chest tube insertion will follow as well as an additional US measurement once placed. After appropriate positioning is confirmed, there will be instillation of intrapleural saline and will be administered every 8 hours for a total of 3 days. After completion of the intrapleural saline course, the effusion will be remeasured by ultrasound. Should the effusions fail to reduce by 75% or significant septations remain, the patient will then be escalated to intrapleural tPA/DNase which will be administered every 12 hours for 3 days. After the completed course of tPA/DNase, a US will be performed, and if significant fluid remains, \>50% of the original effusion or septations remain, Thoracic Surgery consultation will be placed for discussion of VATs.
Study Type
INTERVENTIONAL
Allocation
NA
Purpose
TREATMENT
Masking
NONE
Enrollment
30
Though intraplerual alteplase/ dornase alfa and normal saline have been established method to reduce complicated pleural infection sizes and rate of surgical interventions, with tPA/DNAse being the gold standards, there has not been a study comparing the two head to head. This trial's purpose is to function as pilot study as a foundation for a potential noninferiorrity trail comparing the two.
Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center
Hanover, New Hampshire, United States
Time to chest tube removal
measuring the length of time from chest tube insertion to removal
Time frame: From enrollment to removal- estimated up to 7 days. Once chest tube is placed, it will take 3 days for saline course to be completed and, if escalated, 3 days for intrapleural fibrinolytics, therefore may not be removed until after 7 days.
Need for escalation to fibrinolytics
Rate of patients requiring intraplerual tPA/DNAse after completion of intrapleural saline
Time frame: From enrollment to chest tube removal- up to 7 days. Once chest tube is placed, it will take 3 days for saline course to be completed and, if escalated, 3 days for intrapleural fibrinolytics, therefore may not be removed until after 7 days.
Need for escalation to Video-assisted thoracic surgery (VATS)
Evaluation fo patients who require Video-assisted thoracic surgery (VATS) after completion of intraplerual saline and tPA/DNAse
Time frame: From enrollment to chest tube removal- up to 7 days. Once chest tube is placed, it will take 3 days for saline course to be completed and 3 days for intrapleural fibrinolytics, therefore VATs determined after, about 7 days.
Rate of hemothorax.
Evaluating number of patients who develop a hemothorax
Time frame: From enrollment to chest tube removal- up to 7 days. Once chest tube is placed, it will take 3 days for saline course to be completed and, if escalated, 3 days for intrapleural fibrinolytics, therefore may not be removed until after 7 days.
Length of Hospital Stay
Quantifying the length of hospital stay for all patients enrolled
Time frame: From enrollment to discharge- up to 52 weeks.
Mortality
Rate of 30 day all cause mortally
Time frame: 30 days from enrollment: rate of documented death prior or up to 30 days.
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